phil a écrit :
Bingo – I have two Typo sites that I run right now, externally they look/work great, but internally both have issues that I haven’t been able to solved. One site can’t add/edit ‘Pages’ at all (Application Error (Rails) while my site displays that problem on some pages, but then late last week all of a sudden I couldn’t post! Svn update doesn’t help so I’m just in a lurch while I think of what to do. If we had 4.0 we would have a fresh slate to build on, and trust me, if I got my sites up on 4.0, they’d stay there for a time; I really love the blog Typo has allowed me to create, but lately it’s just been too much work to keep running.
functionality and really needs to be there.
I also think text filters simply dont work.
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I’m still open to alternatives, as long as they’re not written in PHP.
Same here. Actually, I liked Typo because of Tobi’s attitude towards
development, and the idea that something cool can come out of, what,
500 lines of code. It was what I wanted, and it worked. It still
works, somehow, but the community around it seems to falter a little
bit. I’ve never been one to use the flavor of the month, and if you
know me, switching to Typo from being “Employee Number One” of the
never really existing Wordpress Foundation, was a huge step. I don’t
think Typo is doomed, but at this point it might be a good idea to
re-rally the community (Rails and Ruby are the hype, right now, and
Typo is one of that hype’s flagships), work on expanding upon the
leanness, and make things a bit more conducive and accessible.
A theme garden works, but Drupal, for example, sucks when it comes to
themes, and still has a great following. A development community that
can communicate outside a mailing list, a repository of plugins,
filters, and themes, that I don’t have to extract from Trac tickets
would be great, for example, however. Typo has a future, it just needs
a steward and a vessel to get there.
Steve L. wrote:
Maybe the Typo community should look at supporting Rick’s Mephisto
blogging engine. Closer to the original Typo concept and it includes
a converter for Typo blogs…
http://svn.techno-weenie.net/projects/mephisto/trunk/
Wow, it has even less documentation than Typo!
mathew
would be great, for example, however. Typo has a future, it just needs
a steward and a vessel to get there.
Surely this is the problem – we’ve lost our stewards! Piers and Scott
are
busy with work, and that’s left Typo head-less.
The consensus on this thread seems to be that we need to kickstart the
community; the way to do that is to find out who owns/runs
typosphere.org,
and convince them to give two or three trusted long-time members of the
community admin access.
As far as documentation goes, the Trac on typosphere.org should be
opened up
to contributions from the community. I know that’s effectively what
typoforums.org offers, but wikis are more intuitive to navigate (and
IMHO,
putting documentation/howtos on threaded forums is equivalent to burying
it).
Uzair
Exactly – this is a great opportunity to make the existing community
stronger which will then enable the community to grow.
I’m going to start working on organizing the themes on Friday evening as
I laid out in my message last night. Phil has been kind enough to share
with me what he has already collected. I’ll send updates to the list as
I make progress.
Tim
Syed Uzair A. wrote:
community admin access.
Typo-list mailing list
[email protected]
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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Timothy F.
http://digital-achievement.com
Maybe the Typo community should look at supporting Rick’s Mephisto
blogging
engine. Closer to the original Typo concept and it includes a converter
for
Typo blogs…
http://svn.techno-weenie.net/projects/mephisto/trunk/
I agree with that idea. The Typo community should eat its own dog food
and run an instance on typosphere.org. Give accounts to a few active
individuals and let them post not just about Typo, but about the
competition as well.
That way we spread the responsibility out over several busy individuals
rather than one busy individual, and by writing about innovations across
the blogging community and not just within Typo we will better see how
Typo stacks up against other offerings.
Tim
Jon Gretar B. wrote:
I know) but nobody wants to go ahead with a typosphere announcing a
Regards
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http://digital-achievement.com
And did not work well after following the four lines of instructions.
sigh I just want the RSS sidebar to work again.
Well… You just have to find a revision before everything went bad
and use that one.
On 6/16/06, Ernie O. [email protected] wrote:
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On 16/06/06, Jon Gretar B. [email protected] wrote:
Well… You just have to find a revision before everything went bad
and use that one.
Can anyone suggest one? Some of us are still on 2.6.0, and it’s hard to
help fix bugs when you can’t test them.
Myself I’m just using the latest trunk without problems.
Not very stable though.
On 6/16/06, Dick D. [email protected] wrote:
Typo-list mailing list
[email protected]
http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/typo-list
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Jon Gretar B. a écrit :
Myself I’m just using the latest trunk without problems.
Not very stable though.
On 6/16/06, Dick D. [email protected] wrote:
On 16/06/06, Jon Gretar B. [email protected] wrote:
Well… You just have to find a revision before everything went bad
and use that one.
Can anyone suggest one? Some of us are still on 2.6.0, and it’s hard to
help fix bugs when you can’t test them.
Hi list,
would it be just possible to :
svn export the last really stable dev version and do a tar / zip of this
add this archive to the current page on typosphere .org ?
Every people are not familiar with using subversion so it would be
really cool to have this done: we may have more testers here.
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Frédéric de Villamil
“Quand tu veux chasser une belle fille, il vaut mieux commencer par
draguer sa copine moche” – conseil de go.
http://t37.net http://fredericdevillamil.com
[email protected] tel: +33 (0)6 62 19 1337
I just jumped aboard Typo yesterday. I can say guys, that you are doing
a
great job, I love the application, and I will continue to help in anyway
possible.
On 16/06/06, Jon Gretar B. [email protected] wrote:
Myself I’m just using the latest trunk without problems.
Not very stable though.
Those two statements seem to conflict a bit 
I think Typo’s health has been in jeopardy for a long time. If you go
through the last 50 or so changesets most are “new” functionality and
very
few address bugs or even community offered patches on Trac. Letting
contributions languish on Trac uncommitted or even just left open
permanently with no comment is not the sign of a healthy open source
project.
I agree that the unchanging landing page at typosphere.org for the last
few
months is sad. Since Planet Argon is now the official host of Typo, it
would be nice if Robby Russel or some of the other capable folks at
Planet
Argon were added to Typo as commiters. It would seem that they should
have
a vested interest in its success.
On 6/16/06, Dick D. [email protected] wrote:
On 16/06/06, Jon Gretar B. [email protected] wrote:
Myself I’m just using the latest trunk without problems.
Not very stable though.
Those two statements seem to conflict a bit
Hehe…
Sorry. What I meant by stable is that I never get any administration
errors or anything like that. Simply sometimes when the page is being
viewed I get an Applicaton Error(rails). But then I just refresh and
everything works.
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for new users but it’d be a start. If people know a bit about
troubleshooting dropping by the forums more often would probably help
as well.
Great, we’re in agreement. Now, who owns typosphere.org? I for one would
like to be given write-access. I don’t have much to add straight away,
but
I’m happy to sit down for an hour on the weekend and write something, or
proofread what someone else has written.
Once again this is just my personal opinion, but forums are a bad idea
without some documentation in place. They are also not the right place
to
put documentation. The reasons are many, but the most obvious ones are
duplication and navigation. Get typosphere.org going and the forums will
come to life by themselves, and will in fact help us fix and add to the
documentation on the website.
There, I’ve put my hand up.
Uzair
On 16 Jun 2006, at 09:42, a lot of people wrote:
A lot of things …
With regards to a stable version of Typo.
I’m on r1055 for Typo. As for Rails I’m on r4444. I use Ecto to
post and get the odd error when setting the category but it’s easy
enough to fix in admin. Once a day I have a cron job running which
kills off the dispatch.fcgi processes and keeps things (seemingly)
fresh. I cycle the production log every few days to make sure it
doesn’t get too big and the errors I get are minimal … but more
importantly they are still there. If you want a version of Typo that
doesn’t crash … it doesn’t exist yet. Saying that though a lot of
the errors for me seem to be relating to Rails and not Typo.
Remember that both of them are still very much being developed and
the major problem that every Rails application seems to have is
deployment and stability.
Kester Dobson was providing trunk in a zipped format for those who
don’t have a clue about SVN (Kester Dobson's Website)
With regards to Typosphere
Steve L. is right - Planet Argon is the home of that. I haven’t
heard anything from those guys in a long time and the hosting of
Typosphere and Trac for nothing (I guess) is admirable. But it
really is bordering on neglect … any of those lads watching this list?
With regards to ‘Stewardship’
Tobi is quite rightly giving all of his attention to Shopify. Scott
was doing exciting things with Google which I guess doesn’t leave too
much time, Piers is probably neck deep in a tight coding schedule for
real money, Kevin is - no idea - where are you Kevin? But if
there are important patches to be included in trunk maybe somebody
could list them to make it easier if one of the maintainers dropped
in to include them in a changeset? With regards to documentation …
well we could all have a hand in editing Trac … it’s not the best
for new users but it’d be a start. If people know a bit about
troubleshooting dropping by the forums more often would probably help
as well.
And Finally Mephisto and Radiant
I’ve had them both installed locally. Radiant does a good job as a
CMS but it’s not a blogging system which is an important
difference … for me at least Mephisto is interesting but there
is no documentation as Mathew points out and your host needs to have
rmagick installed and working. If Typo frustrates you, then you’ll
go mad with that right now.
Gary
Right on Tim, let me know when you’re ready for them and I’ll cut them
down to small screenshot and archive. From there I’ll post the
‘orphans’ to the list and see if we can retrieve some lost themes.
P
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 18:14:17 -0500, Timothy F.
[email protected] wrote:
The consensus on this thread seems to be that we need to kickstart the
putting documentation/howtos on threaded forums is equivalent to burying
Timothy F.
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On 16 Jun 2006, at 15:08, [email protected] wrote:
Great, we’re in agreement. Now, who owns typosphere.org? I for one
would
like to be given write-access. I don’t have much to add straight
away, but
I’m happy to sit down for an hour on the weekend and write
something, or
proofread what someone else has written.
Everybody has access to Trac. Just hit the ‘Edit this page’ button