Colin L. wrote in post #1176179:
On 6 July 2015 at 09:23, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
Yes, the plan is to get it off any of the platforms. Host it on a clean
Linux-Ruby-Rails Server. Virtual for that itself.
It’s closed-source. Stuff owned by the people we’re doing it for. So
well, Looks like we’ll have to upgrade it to Rails 4. And I’ll have to
find someone to do it. Know anyone who can try?
Get it working on the existing version of Rails first. Then upgrade it.
Colin
I totally agree Colin. But how…? That’s the question. Nothing I do is
working. Any pointers?
I have a fully set-up Ubuntu 14 LTS Server here. With Ruby/rails/etc.
Total. But it just don’t like the code…
Goan.
On 6 July 2015 at 09:49, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
Get it working on the existing version of Rails first. Then upgrade it.
Colin
I totally agree Colin. But how…? That’s the question. Nothing I do is
working. Any pointers?
I have a fully set-up Ubuntu 14 LTS Server here. With Ruby/rails/etc.
Total. But it just don’t like the code…
You will need to engage someone with at least a basic understanding of
Rails I think. I am not available. I am sure contractors are
available. Someone here will suggest where to look I am sure, or
google for Ruby R. Contractor. Alternatively train someone up
in-house.
Colin
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:18 AM, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
Get it working on the existing version of Rails first. Then upgrade it.
I totally agree Colin. But how…? That’s the question. Nothing I do is
working. Any pointers?
Why ask for “pointers” if you’re going to ignore them? You’re still
apparently trying to run this command
$ foreman start
when I gave you a suggestion to get more useful error messages
some time ago. Did you try that? What was the result?
–
Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan
Consulting Availability : Silicon Valley or remote
Hassan S. wrote in post #1176191:
when I gave you a suggestion to get more useful error messages
some time ago. Did you try that? What was the result?
I wish it would… 
(give more useful error msgs)…
That’s all it does too:
$ bundle exec
bundler: exec needs a command to run
$
I appreciate you taking the time - but can you point me to something
that will explain what I’m trying to do and maybe how to do it. It is my
first time with RoR I agree - but I’ve handled pretty-much everything
else. Ok? And this can’t be rocket science. So at the risk of repeating
myself “Any pointers?”
Goan.
No. There is no substitute for understanding Ruby and Rails enough
to work through whatever is going on. Without a certain baseline level
of knowledge you’re just spinning your wheels, as shown above.
Sorry.
Y’know Hassan,
I’ve worked with computers and IT for as long as I can remember - and
that’s a long time. Mostly with Windows (of late) and had my fair share
of other OSs too - from DOS & Unix to Linux… But it’s at times like
these that I know why I really prefer M$ Products…
If it was some noob asking me the same questions, I’d have been able to
point her/him to something lke this →
- YouTube and hope for the best. And
they probably would have stumbled around and found their way. Maybe even
been able to get it up and running 
You kinda guys with your cryptic answers is what makes it all the more
difficult. Obviously I’m looking for some silver bullet. And there is I
know. Not been around so long that everything’s gotta be done the hard
way see. So anyways…
Thanx for the help. Your confidence in the ability of others to figure
out stuff they don’t yet know is applaudable. I’m headed off this forum.
Back to where I can figure it out with people that don’t need to make
every set-up into a “trial by fire - rite of passage”… Thanx.
And Colin, sincere thanks you did try. But maybe in future - if you
thought more like M$, it’d make the world a better place. There is a
quick and fast (and yes dirty) way to get stuff going. Not everything’s
gotta be perfect and “As it should be” see…
Au revoir…!
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:42 AM, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
when I gave you a suggestion to get more useful error messages
some time ago. Did you try that? What was the result?
$ bundle exec
bundler: exec needs a command to run
$
To recap, I said:
Failing that, stop trying to run the app; leave foreman, puma, etc.
out of the picture and try running the tests. And use bundle exec
to insure you’re using the Gemfile-specified versions.
(P.S. The immediate error
ERROR: No application configured, nothing to run
probably means there’s no config.ru file in the main directory.)
The main point was to RUN THE TESTS. And using bundle exec
does, yes, imply using it to run a command, but since I can’t see
your app I can’t say what kind of tests it has, and hence what that
command would be.
After you tried bundle exec by itself, did you read up on bundler?
Try running bundle --help or similar? Did you look for instructions
on running tests in Rails? Did you check for a config.ru file?
I appreciate you taking the time - but can you point me to something
that will explain what I’m trying to do and maybe how to do it.
No. There is no substitute for understanding Ruby and Rails enough
to work through whatever is going on. Without a certain baseline level
of knowledge you’re just spinning your wheels, as shown above.
Sorry.
–
Hassan S. ------------------------ [email protected]
twitter: @hassan
Consulting Availability : Silicon Valley or remote
Norm S. wrote in post #1176272:
If I were doing the job I would first get it running in my system with
rails 2.3.18 (the last rails 2 version) and then upgrade it. The
easiest way to get it running with rails 2.3.18 would be to install a
10.4 LTS system (which is of the same vintage) then install rubygems
(probably version 1.4) then ‘gem install rails --version 2.3.18’ and
then ‘rake gems:install’ in your app directory. Take a look at Agile
Rails edition 2 for help. After you have it running and all of the
tests running you are ready to explore upgrading.
JMHO
Norm
Thanx Norm,
That makes so much more sense. Yes - gonna try that and will keep you
posted.
Thanx again. Finally someone with some sensible suggestion - whew -
thanx!!!
Goan.
That’s not really very nice: "Finally someone with some sensible
suggestion
Folks stick their neck (name) out here to make suggestions…
On 07/06/2015 01:49 AM, OPSPL Goan wrote:
Colin
I totally agree Colin. But how…? That’s the question. Nothing I do is
working. Any pointers?
I have a fully set-up Ubuntu 14 LTS Server here. With Ruby/rails/etc.
Total. But it just don’t like the code…
Goan.
If I were doing the job I would first get it running in my system with
rails 2.3.18 (the last rails 2 version) and then upgrade it. The
easiest way to get it running with rails 2.3.18 would be to install a
10.4 LTS system (which is of the same vintage) then install rubygems
(probably version 1.4) then ‘gem install rails --version 2.3.18’ and
then ‘rake gems:install’ in your app directory. Take a look at Agile
Rails edition 2 for help. After you have it running and all of the
tests running you are ready to explore upgrading.
JMHO
Norm
Elizabeth McGurty wrote in post #1176321:
That’s not really very nice: "Finally someone with some sensible
suggestion
Folks stick their neck (name) out here to make suggestions…
Sorry you didn’t like that. Believe me I’m not that-a-ways either.
Read the whole thread. I’ve been here days trying to get “someone with
some ideas of what I could/should try just point me in the right
direction”. I’m not asking them for a step-by-step what to do - just
where to start looking? What’m I doing wrong? Is that too much to ask on
this forum?
And all I get is guys telling me that I don’t know what I’m doing and
need to hire someone to do it. When I ask if anyone’s willing - no one
is! Then they say I don’t have enough knowledge to get the task done -
why’d I be on a forum “asking questions” if I did have the knowledge.
I’m part of many forums - where I do help people - been doing it for
years - and I’ve even given some examples of what kinda stuff I’d
expect. Ok. Not a youtube video answering my (yes I agree fairly complex
requirement)questions… But gimme a break - I gotta get the job done,
don’t need to learn the whole science behind RoR - Just need to get
working code (agreed legacy one) - up and running!!!
Is it too much to ask? On a forum for RoR?
So yes, that was really the first sensible answer. The rest were all the
“you gotta master the technology and know it all” before you can get it
up and running - kind. Not very useful see - to a lowly SysAdmin -
trying to get the stuff “just up and running” for the team of
programmers to take over and work on it - from there.
Long answer - Yes… Apologies if I upset anyone… But Man am I
pi**ed!!!
G
Colin L. wrote in post #1176330:
On 7 July 2015 at 20:01, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
…
Read the whole thread. I’ve been here days trying to get “someone with
some ideas of what I could/should try just point me in the right
direction”. I’m not asking them for a step-by-step what to do - just
where to start looking? What’m I doing wrong? Is that too much to ask on
this forum?
Hassan made two suggestions that as far as I can see (unless I have
missed it) you have not responded to.
Yes I agree. But I also asked where and for someone who (very-obviously)
is not familiar where to look …
- Start by running the tests that hopefully the developer provided
with the app.
I don’t know even where to look for this. Like if I was guiding someone
on a Dotnet aspx IIS Server set-up I’d be saying “take this test page -
put it in your default-web directory - run it and see what output you
get etc.”… See?
- Check that the file config.ru exists in the root directory of the
app.
I told him it didn’t. And…? What do I do now. Again for example had
someone asked me a similar qn for the IIS Platform, I’d have given a
sample/default web.config file. Asked them to put it into the
default-web directory - run it and see what output you get etc."… See?
For a first-time RoR SysAdmin - where do i start. And sadly the
documentation too is not really very helpful.
So:
-
What tests should I be running? And where would they be - or should I
look for them? I told you we have no access to the original programmer.
-
Can anyone give me a sample of a config.ru.
Thanx guys… Looks like we’re getting somewhere now…
On 8 July 2015 at 07:10, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
missed it) you have not responded to.
Yes I agree. But I also asked where and for someone who (very-obviously)
is not familiar where to look …
- Start by running the tests that hopefully the developer provided
with the app.
I don’t know even where to look for this.
Google would have helped, also the Rails Guides cover testing (and
pretty much everything else).
The tests should be in the test folder of the application.
How to run then will depend to some extent on the sort of tests the
developer provided. You could try
rake db:test:prepare
which should create the test database, then
bundle exec rake test
but as I said it will depend on the sort of tests the developer
provided.
Like if I was guiding someone
on a Dotnet aspx IIS Server set-up I’d be saying “take this test page -
put it in your default-web directory - run it and see what output you
get etc.”… See?
- Check that the file config.ru exists in the root directory of the
app.
I told him it didn’t. And…? What do I do now.
I suppose you could create a new rails app using the version of rails
that your app uses and use the config.ru from that.
Colin
On 8 July 2015 at 07:10, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
Colin L. wrote in post #1176330:
…
- Start by running the tests that hopefully the developer provided
with the app.
I don’t know even where to look for this. Like if I was guiding someone
on a Dotnet aspx IIS Server set-up I’d be saying “take this test page -
put it in your default-web directory - run it and see what output you
get etc.”… See?
On a slightly different tack, I believe you said that after you get
the app basically working you would pass it to programmers to
maintain. Rather than getting it running, then organising training
for the programmers, then passing it over to them, you might be better
to get the programmers trained first, then get the app going with
their help. Many of the questions you have been asking are ones that
they would know the answer to.
Colin
On 7 July 2015 at 20:01, OPSPL Goan [email protected] wrote:
…
Read the whole thread. I’ve been here days trying to get “someone with
some ideas of what I could/should try just point me in the right
direction”. I’m not asking them for a step-by-step what to do - just
where to start looking? What’m I doing wrong? Is that too much to ask on
this forum?
Hassan made two suggestions that as far as I can see (unless I have
missed it) you have not responded to.
-
Start by running the tests that hopefully the developer provided
with the app.
-
Check that the file config.ru exists in the root directory of the
app.
Colin
On Monday, 6 July 2015 12:21:53 UTC-4, Ruby-Forum.com User wrote:
I’ve worked with computers and IT for as long as I can remember - and
You kinda guys with your cryptic answers is what makes it all the more
difficult. Obviously I’m looking for some silver bullet. And there is I
know. Not been around so long that everything’s gotta be done the hard
way see. So anyways…
There is a silver bullet. LEARN HOW TO USE THE THING, OR HIRE SOMEBODY
WHO
KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Expecting people to help you when you don’t
understand what you’re fiddling with is like standing beside your car
with
a flat tire and demanding a “silver bullet” to make up for your lack of
a
wrench and a jack.
Thanx for the help. Your confidence in the ability of others to figure
out stuff they don’t yet know is applaudable. I’m headed off this forum.
Back to where I can figure it out with people that don’t need to make
every set-up into a “trial by fire - rite of passage”… Thanx.
And Colin, sincere thanks you did try. But maybe in future - if you
thought more like M$, it’d make the world a better place. There is a
quick and fast (and yes dirty) way to get stuff going. Not everything’s
gotta be perfect and “As it should be” see…
BTW, I’ve got a Windows 1.0 app that I need to recompile for Windows 10.
I
need you to tell me the “silver bullet” to make all the compilation
errors
go away. It doesn’t need to be “as it should be”, but a way SURELY
exists,
right?
–Matt J.
On 10 July 2015 at 20:11, Elizabeth McGurty [email protected] wrote:
Has this set of messages been hacked? I see my name and messages that I do
not understand?
Since you have not posted the offending text it is difficult for us to
comment.
More likely someone has just got the quoting mixed up, or is that not
what you mean?
Colin
Hi OPSPL Goan,
drop me a message, I can take a look on that app.
Taras M. wrote in post #1176487:
Hi OPSPL Goan,
drop me a message, I can take a look on that app.
Can’t seem to drop you the msg.
Mail me at online(dot)goa(AT)gmail.com Ok.
Where are you based and what kind of charges are you looking at?
G
Has this set of messages been hacked? I see my name and messages that I
do
not understand?