On 7/21/07, Eleanor McHugh [email protected] wrote:
So we have a lady and nobody seems to notice 
Thanks for posting.
Another 30y.o. Male. 
My background is as a mechanical engineer. while I was getting my
bachelor
I studied web development, HTML and javascript which started to get me
interested in programming. I did another course in computing and learnt
a
bit of java and perl. I wrote a couple of token applications in java
and
PHP for work. I found ruby nearly two years ago and it has been my
obsession ever since.
By day I work as a mechanical design engineer, by night I hack on ruby
as
much as possible
Daniel
On 21.07.2007 05:20, Bertram S. wrote:
Am Samstag, 21. Jul 2007, 09:38:18 +0900 schrieb Eleanor McHugh:
Preferred OS: OS X, FreeBSD, Windows XP - anything but Linux!
BSD preferred is ok;
Why? Please explain!
but XP preferred to Linux??? Please
explain.
Cheers
robert
male 26y
bg: C++ (lots of, and I do like it), perl, java, OCaml. Ruby is now my
language of choice, with C++ lying around for the performance-related
parts.
wk: phd student in robotics
location: Toulouse/France
Sylvain
On 21.07.2007 11:24, Robert D. wrote:
Location: London
So we have a lady and nobody seems to notice
Generalizing from yourself might lead to wrong
conclusions.
Cheers
robert
PS: I am not sure what exactly you expected. Should we all embark on
courting Ellie? That certainly would be funny… Ok boys, GO! :-)))
chuckle
Robert D. wrote:
Education: BSc Applied Physics, MSc Information Systems
Work: as little as possible ;p
Location: LondonSo we have a lady and nobody seems to notice
Generalizing from yourself might lead to wrong
conclusions.
Do you think I am of the gender gender? (Which would be?)
No seriously did somebody notice?
I think most of us realised a while ago, and didn’t think it worth
mentioning
On 7/21/07, Robert K. [email protected] wrote:
On 21.07.2007 05:20, Bertram S. wrote:
Am Samstag, 21. Jul 2007, 09:38:18 +0900 schrieb Eleanor McHugh:
Preferred OS: OS X, FreeBSD, Windows XP - anything but Linux!
BSD preferred is ok;
Why? Please explain!
but XP preferred to Linux??? Please
explain.
Nobody RExpects the Spanish Inquisition!
martin
Godwin’s Law.
On 7/21/07, Robert K. [email protected] wrote:
Work: as little as possible ;p
Location: LondonSo we have a lady and nobody seems to notice
Generalizing from yourself might lead to wrong
conclusions.
Do you think I am of the gender gender? (Which would be?)
No seriously did somebody notice?
On 7/21/07, Alex Y. [email protected] wrote:
Preferred Languages: Ruby, BASIC, ICON
I think most of us realised a while ago, and didn’t think it worth
mentioning
No of course not, only in the context of the thread in question!
|Robert D.|
{
:gender => :male,
:age => 23.years,
:location => ‘Saint-Petersburg, Russia’,
:current_work => ‘QA’
}
= Langs
- C++, x86 asm, Prolog (was taught, but never used)
- QBasic (learned myself, used few times and happily forgot)
- Object Pascal/Delphi, Java, Ruby (learned myself and is using
nowadays) - XSLT/XSL:FO, TeX/LaTeX (does it counts?)
In message [email protected], Robert K. writes:
Why? Please explain!
BSD tends to be better engineered. Look at it this way:
Imagine that a driver were to print an error message. What would be the
chances that the message would unambiguously identify the driver?
Imagine that a device has been probed. Will the probe message tell you
what the device is and give you a good hint as to the name of the
driver?
Will the message give you information about the device?
I’ve just spent a week buried in Linux kernel code. The core Linux code
is
pretty good these days, but it would benefit a lot from more
standardized and
consistent kernel messages. To be fair, some of the code I’m working
with
is vendor code that isn’t in (or likely to be added to) the mainline
kernel,
and that code is usually the worst.
They’re philosophically different. In general, I prefer the BSD
approach,
which places greater weight on developers conforming their code a bit to
the kernel’s style and standards at all levels, including displayed
messages.
-s
Morton G. wrote:
Regards, Morton
This was decidedly a low-budget shop. I think we got a line printer when
we upgraded to the 1130, but I don’t really remember.
On Jul 21, 2007, at 12:45 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
When I worked in a 1620 shop, we had a 407 to generate the reports
from
punched cards out of the 1620.
A 407? I used one of those to print punched card output from the 650.
I remember it as an early to mid 1950s accounting machine which was
programmed by means of huge patch panels. Wasn’t a 407 a bit retro in
the 1620 era? I think IBM offered a some kind of real line printer
for the 1620, but since my company never got one, I don’t remember
any details.
Regards, Morton
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Regards, Morton
This was decidedly a low-budget shop. I think we got a line printer when
we upgraded to the 1130, but I don’t really remember.
Yeah, but the 1132, the line printer of the 1130, was essentially a
lobotomized 407, anyway.
Morton G. wrote:
Oh, yes, I just remembered. The 1620 brought two firsts to my
programming experience: a drum plotter and a disk storage unit. I really
enjoyed writing programs that did output to the plotter.
The only plotter IBM ever offered commercially, if I recall aright,
staying in the product line years after the rest of the system had
dropped out.
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
As an aside, I worked at IBM during the transition from the 7000 series
to System\360. There was never a 707, and wouldn’t have been because of
the airliner. The 704 was originally called the 703 but someone else
grabbed that number and so IBM moved to 704, forcing the follow-on to
the 702 into 705.
I have heard otherwise, that the 703 was an intended offline tape
sorter/collator that never got to market.
More notes from that period: in addition to FORTRAN, IBM developed a
language called COMTRAN for business programming. It never caught on,
though, mostly because Grace Murray Hopper and Univac and the Feds put
all their weight behind COBOL.
…of which one of the most important sources was Commercial Translator
(as far as I know, “COMTRAN” was never an official name, though it was
widespread).
Morton G. wrote:
On Jul 21, 2007, at 12:45 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
When I worked in a 1620 shop, we had a 407 to generate the reports from
punched cards out of the 1620.A 407? I used one of those to print punched card output from the 650. I
remember it as an early to mid 1950s accounting machine which was
programmed by means of huge patch panels. Wasn’t a 407 a bit retro in
the 1620 era? I think IBM offered a some kind of real line printer for
the 1620, but since my company never got one, I don’t remember any details.
It could attach a 1443, which had maintenance problems of its own.
Keeping the good ol’ 407 made sense in the 1620 context, Even on decimal
hardware, FORTRAN II was a kinda sucky language to do your
accounts-payable in. And you could use a 407 as an 80/80 lister to
desk-check your FORTRAN code before compiling–that was a very common
practice in those days.
John W. Kennedy
“There are those who argue that everything breaks even in this old dump
of a world of ours. I suppose these ginks who argue that way hold that
because the rich man gets ice in the summer and the poor man gets it in
the winter things are breaking even for both. Maybe so, but I’ll swear I
can’t see it that way.”
– The last words of Bat Masterson
On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 09:18:14PM +0900, Bertram S. wrote:
Godwin’s Law.
Because he mentioned MS Windows . . . ? That’s amusing.
On 7/21/07, John W. Kennedy [email protected] wrote:
Morton G. wrote:
Oh, yes, I just remembered. The 1620 brought two firsts to my
programming experience: a drum plotter and a disk storage unit. I really
enjoyed writing programs that did output to the plotter.The only plotter IBM ever offered commercially, if I recall aright,
staying in the product line years after the rest of the system had
dropped out.
As I recall, the plotter was a bit of badge-engineering, it was really
from calcomp with an IBM badge. It hooked up to the paper tape punch
interface. You drove it from Fortran-II programs with the “punch
paper tape” command.
At UConn when they installed the plotter on the 1620, the old
paper-tape reader/punch was unused. While I was there some grad
students in the EE/CS department commandeered it and hooked it up to
the department’s PDP-8 with the intent of writing a paper-tape
operating system. I don’t know that they ever got it fully working
though, IIRC the hitch was trying to come up with some handshaking
mechanism to slow the drive down.
–
Rick DeNatale
My blog on Ruby
http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/