this list migration was incredibly annoying. it broke all my Gmail
filters and dropped 50 messages in my inbox. I actually reported it to
Google as abuse.
On 8/19/06, Antonio C. [email protected] wrote:
Regards,
Antonio
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Giles B.
http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
Am Samstag, 19. August 2006 17:55 schrieb Giles B.:
this list migration was incredibly annoying. it broke all my
Gmail filters and dropped 50 messages in my inbox. I actually
reported it to Google as abuse.
Sorry, but I use german to describe my thoughts:
Schenkelklopfer!!! Was ein Spass. Es ist schon erstaunlich was
für Leute sich hinter dem PC befinden…Puuuhhh!!!
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Jochen
On 8/19/06, Giles B. [email protected] wrote:
this list migration was incredibly annoying. it broke all my Gmail
filters and dropped 50 messages in my inbox. I actually reported it to
Google as abuse.
Lovely.
Now we see that the Rails community is clearly separate from the Ruby
community. People are immediately willing to assume the worst and act
the asshole in front of thousands.
Nicely done, Mr Bowkett. Nicely done.
Austin Z. * [email protected] * http://www.halostatue.ca/
* [email protected] * You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. // halo • statue
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Look, I like your PDF library, but I think your attitude is a little
unrealistic. Spam is spam, whatever the intention. Whoever handled
this list migration acted the asshole in front of thousands – not me.
When I hit the Google Abuse button, I described this abuse as abuse
due to incompetence, rather than abuse due to malice, using almost
exactly those words, but abuse is abuse, and calling me names and
swearing at me is hardly going to change that. In fact calling people
names is not entirely unabusive, come to think of it.
I didn’t assume the worst, either. I analyzed the situation, figured
it out, and reported it as abuse. Expecting a busy man to shrug off
spam due to incompetence? Calling him an asshole because he doesn’t? I
don’t think that sort of thing happens in the Ruby community. Wasting
my time with spam? That’s lame, sloppy, and inconsiderate. Whether due
to malice or incompetence, it is abuse, so I reported it as such. And
give me a break. Calling me names and swearing at me doesn’t exactly
make you the nice guy.
On 8/19/06, Austin Z. [email protected] wrote:
Nicely done, Mr Bowkett. Nicely done.
-austin
Austin Z. * [email protected] * http://www.halostatue.ca/
* [email protected] * You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. // halo • statue
* [email protected]
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Giles B.
http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
Am Samstag, 19. August 2006 18:24 schrieb Giles B.:
I didn’t assume the worst, either. I analyzed the situation,
On 8/19/06, Giles B. [email protected] wrote:
this list migration was incredibly annoying. it broke all my
Gmail filters and dropped 50 messages in my inbox. I actually
reported it to Google as abuse.
Nothing more to say:
Since when is breaking your GMail filters considered abuse?
Is it inconvenient? Yes. Could it have been handled better? Yes. Is
it Abuse? I don’t think so.
For those of us who filter by subject, doing something as simple as
changing the list subject tag would have had the same effect. Would
you consider that abuse too?
On Aug 19, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Giles B. wrote:
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:: but by our capacity for experience
This mailing list fiasco reminds me way too much of the security
upgrade fiasco. To me it just shows poor judgment. Not even a
posting to the list that it was going to happen. Not that these
particular things affected me a whole lot, but it demonstrates very
clearly a pattern that’s not very comforting.
snacktime wrote:
This mailing list fiasco reminds me way too much of the security
upgrade fiasco. To me it just shows poor judgment. Not even a
posting to the list that it was going to happen. Not that these
particular things affected me a whole lot, but it demonstrates very
clearly a pattern that’s not very comforting.
Fiasco is the word. I’ll admit that in my other post my temper got the
best of me, but this simple task of migrating a mailing list was
handled in a slovenly manner.
I don’t even read this list, except very occasionally, because a lot of
the posts are just newbies asking extremely basic questions. It all
gets filtered to a label. I like filtering, a lot. Before today, the
last time I had more than 12 messages in my Inbox at once was 2004.
I REALLY don’t appreciate being spammed. I think this is actually a
fairly universal sentiment. It would have been so easy for this to have
been handled in a professional manner. All you do is post to the list
that you’re moving the list. That’s it and that’s all. It’s simple.
It’s easy. It isn’t even a big deal necessarily – but there’s
obviously no excuse for getting something this simple that wrong.
And I hate to say it, but whoever posted that this slovenly fiasco was
indicative of a “quick and dirty” mindset in the Rails community was
absolutely right. You should use Rails because you don’t want to write
SQL – not because you don’t know how. This is why I stopped reading
this stupid list in the first place – this flat-out DISGUSTING
shortcuts mentality. It just turns my stomach. Like when the Prag Progs
did v2 of their Rails book and everybody demanded a discount.
I admit that maybe it was overkill for me to say that whoever handled
this thing should be slapped, but you know what? Maybe they should. Not
necessarily hard, not necessarily in the face, but maybe somewhere,
with some degree of force. Certainly they should be made aware that the
way they handled this extraordinarily straightforward task fell below
the minimum standards that some people hold.
I am one of those people, and if you don’t like it, you can just deal.
The mature among you will deal in certain ways. Others will post
photographs of vomit. I am sure that seems appropriate to some of you.
Go ahead. Knock yourselves out.
But can you really blame me for not wanting to have pictures of vomit
being sent unsolicited to my Inbox?
Giles
Am Samstag, 19. August 2006 18:51 schrieb Jochen K.:
Nothing more to say:
very interesting thing!
I got 170 visits - and ONLY ONE directly from a browser showing a
google groups window!!!
.SPETSNAZ.
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