Best ui toolkit?

As subject.
I abandoned prototype, I’ seeing jquery ui but I was impressed by ExtJS.
What do you use/recommend in general?

Look at the demos

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2011/1/10 Rodrigo M. [email protected]:

Look at the demos
jQuery UI Demos | jQuery UI

Yes I’ve seen.
Have you looked at extjs?
http://dev.sencha.com/deploy/dev/examples/

jqgrid to rails

https://github.com/ahe/2dc_jqgridI am using this with rails 3…
perfect,
but i will develop my own datagrid in future… with jquery offcourse =D

Em 10 de janeiro de 2011 11:15, Rodrigo M.
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Yes I’ve seen.
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2011/1/10 Rodrigo M. [email protected]:

jqgrid to rails
GitHub - ahe/2dc_jqgrid: This plugin allows you to add jQuery datagrids very easily to your Rails applications.
I am using this with rails 3… perfect, but i will develop my own datagrid
in future… with jquery offcourse =D

Great, thank you.
Will you develop your own datagrid because you don’t like that one?

I love this datagrid, but i need some extra behaviour like add columns
and
improve the filter. The application is mine and will be perfect

But jqgrid is great… i am very meticulous with my application =D

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I love this datagrid, but i need some extra behaviour like add columns and
improve the filter. The application is mine and will be perfect
But jqgrid is great… i am verymeticulous with my application =D

I’m tryingjqgrid.
As I read in http://www.2dconcept.com/jquery-grid-rails-plugin I’ve
installed the plugin, there isn’t a gem, create a scaffold, modifyed
the controller and the index.html.erb but this is the page result:

<script

src=“/javascripts/jqgrid/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.min.js?1294673964”
type=“text/javascript”>

It is text not html.
I’m using rails 3, have I missed something?

Extjs is free only when your project is not commercial

Extjs has a complicated syntax and semantic

Extjs is very powerfull but not flexible then jquery ui

JqueryUI’s community is bigger then Extjs

you want datagrid? its here with jquery
http://www.trirand.com/blog/jqgrid/jqgrid.html

http://www.trirand.com/blog/jqgrid/jqgrid.htmlWhat else you want?? i
will
help you =D

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this plugin was developed in rails 2

rails 3 need the command html_safe to transform plain texto to html

find the file vendor/plugins/2dc_jqgrid.rb and find the
method jqgrid_javascript and put html_safe

or put on the controllers or view… i changed this plugin and i don’t
know
exactly where you have to put the html_safe =D

html_safe works well: “

”.html_safe

and it will transform to html

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src=“/javascripts/jqgrid/jquery.tablednd.js?1294673964”
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On 10 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Mauro wrote:

I’'ve find a lot of errors, for example the method total_entries does
not exists, there isn’t a plugin for rails 3?

It should be clear by now that gems/plugins for javascript generation
are to be avoided. Not only will it generate ugly inline code in most
cases, but you also lose a lot of control. If you want to use
Javascript, then write Javascript, don’t let some ruby gem write the
code for you.

If you ever want to work with a framework (which is in no way
comparable to jquery ui components, which are more granular and only
implement the view layers and not a client side datastore etc) such as
ExtJS or SproutCore or one of the MVC Javascript frameworks, you’ll
simply have no other choice than to write proper Javascript (although
with Sproutcore that’s quite debatable, but still).

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

2011/1/10 Rodrigo M. [email protected]:

this plugin was developed in rails 2
rails 3 need the command html_safe to transform plain texto to html
find the file vendor/plugins/2dc_jqgrid.rb and find the
methodjqgrid_javascript and put html_safe
or put on the controllers or view… i changed this plugin and i don’t know
exactly where you have to put the html_safe =D
html_safe works well: “

”.html_safe
and it will transform to html

I’'ve find a lot of errors, for example the method total_entries does
not exists, there isn’t a plugin for rails 3?

Peter De Berdt wrote in post #973721:
[…]

you’ll
simply have no other choice than to write proper Javascript (although
with Sproutcore that’s quite debatable, but still).

Just out of curiosity: what do you mean by that last remark? (I’ve been
interested in SproutCore but haven’t really played with it yet.)

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:14, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

you’ll
simply have no other choice than to write proper Javascript (although
with Sproutcore that’s quite debatable, but still).

Just out of curiosity: what do you mean by that last remark? (I’ve
been
interested in SproutCore but haven’t really played with it yet.)

Apart from the fact that SproutCore uses ruby generators to generate
its files and compile to a static build not much to be honest, but
there’s always people nitpicking :slight_smile: The actual code you write is
still Javascript of course.

I’m more familiar with ExtJS (using it in production apps) although in
a way I wish I wasn’t. Don’t get me wrong, it certainly has its
merits, but there’s just too much in there that doesn’t gel with me
for some reason. It’s probably just personal preference though, just
like I prefer Ruby and Rails over some other languages, frameworks and
DSLs.

Only dipped my toes into SproutCore but it’s certainly an interesting
framework and I might pick it up if the right project comes along.
However, I’m especially looking forward to Yehuda’s work of
abstracting certain parts of SproutCore so I can hook those into
existing and new apps (the whole binding MVC part for example).

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

it was made in rails 2 but it’s works fine for me on rails 3… i fix
some
problems in my migration to rails 3, but it was easy

try this GitHub - springbok/jqgrid-rails3: This plugin allows you to add jQuery datagrids very easily to your Rails applications.

https://github.com/springbok/jqgrid-rails3It’s for rails 3

=D

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On 10 January 2011 18:40, Peter De Berdt [email protected]
wrote:

It should be clear by now that gems/plugins for javascript generation are to
be avoided. Not only will it generate ugly inline code in most cases, but
you also lose a lot of control. If you want to use Javascript, then write
Javascript, don’t let some ruby gem write the code for you.

It seems to me that this plugin doesn’t generate any javascript code.

Peter De Berdt wrote in post #973735:

On 10 Jan 2011, at 19:14, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

you’ll
simply have no other choice than to write proper Javascript (although
with Sproutcore that’s quite debatable, but still).

Just out of curiosity: what do you mean by that last remark? (I’ve
been
interested in SproutCore but haven’t really played with it yet.)

Apart from the fact that SproutCore uses ruby generators to generate
its files and compile to a static build not much to be honest, but
there’s always people nitpicking :slight_smile: The actual code you write is
still Javascript of course.

Right, that makes sense.

I’m more familiar with ExtJS (using it in production apps) although in
a way I wish I wasn’t. Don’t get me wrong, it certainly has its
merits, but there’s just too much in there that doesn’t gel with me
for some reason. It’s probably just personal preference though, just
like I prefer Ruby and Rails over some other languages, frameworks and
DSLs.

Yeah, I looked at ExtJS, and it just seems (from the little I’ve been
able to figure out) like the wrong approach, starting right from its
distrust of HTML and the resulting insistence on building the whole DOM
programmatically (or am I getting that wrong?).

Only dipped my toes into SproutCore but it’s certainly an interesting
framework and I might pick it up if the right project comes along.
However, I’m especially looking forward to Yehuda’s work of
abstracting certain parts of SproutCore so I can hook those into
existing and new apps (the whole binding MVC part for example).

Interesting.

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

Best,

Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
[email protected]

On Jan 10, 11:40am, Mauro [email protected] wrote:

I’'ve find a lot of errors, for example the method total_entries does
not exists, there isn’t a plugin for rails 3?

I’m using this generator in rails 2, it is great. It does require the
squirrel plugin, if you look at the generated controller code you
should see the squirrel syntax. total_entries looks like it’s defined
in paginator.rb

On Jan 10, 2:02pm, Mauro [email protected] wrote:

It seems to me that this plugin doesn’t generate any javascript code.

It does, the jqgrid() method in your view layer generates it. IMO
that’s OK, if you need something customized you can take the generated
code and tweak it later, like we do with scaffolds

On 10 Jan 2011, at 20:23, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

able to figure out) like the wrong approach, starting right from its
distrust of HTML and the resulting insistence on building the whole
DOM
programmatically (or am I getting that wrong?).

Quite a lot of Javascript GUI frameworks build the whole DOM from
code, that’s the least of my worries.

The main things that bother me about ExtJS:

  • It’s one huge library, even if you only intend to use one or two
    components.
  • It requires quite a bit of configuration except for the most basic
    setups… to put it mildly, and that for a framework that touts being
    able to make complex web apps
  • The built-in components can behave unexpectedly from time to time,
    e.g. the grouping views
  • Finding the right method to achieve a certain result is a disaster
    sometimes or it simply doesn’t exist
  • The documentation is there, but it still requires a lot of trial-and-
    error (and console logging) to get the job done

That said, there are some pretty powerful and complex UI components in
there that would take quite a while to develop from scratch and have
no (satisfactory) counterpart (jQuery plugin etc). So if you are on a
tight budget or deadline the ExtJS license will be worth the money.

Best regards

Peter De Berdt

On 10 January 2011 18:40, Peter De Berdt [email protected]
wrote:

It should be clear by now that gems/plugins for javascript generation are to
be avoided. Not only will it generate ugly inline code in most cases, but
you also lose a lot of control. If you want to use Javascript, then write
Javascript, don’t let some ruby gem write the code for you.

I’m trying using the pure jquery jqgrid.
I’ve write the javascript code to display a datagrid, I get the code
from jqgrid demos jqGrid Demos.
Now I have great problem to take data from a rails model.
I don’t know how and there isn’t examples.