I need serious help!

Joe W. wrote:

Hey yall experienced coders and programmer dudes. I wanna make an MMORPG
type game, but I have no programming experiance whatsoever. Someone told
me this was the best language to start learning with. So here I am,
confused about everything except blog making because of that “15 minute”
tutorial which turned out to take an hour+ for me. So I need someone to
tell me how to get started making even a basic game. Like 2d, horrible
graphics, the worst they can get. Like taking a game for 4 year olds,
then taking a step back. So simple, not even I want to play it. How
would one get started making any kind of game? And if anyone could
supply me with information for my sub-childrens game, that be nice too.

Well, it looks like you haven’t looked at this in a while. Either way,
dude, an MMORPG of even the most basic type(with graphics) like pong
online, would take way more work than you can even comprehend,
especially if you have no programming experience.

I suggest, getting together with some buddies–maybe pool some money for
a beginner’s guide to Ruby–and try to figure out as much of it as you
can. Matter of fact, best to just divide up the workload(one person
works on file reading/writing/parsing and another on manipulating
classes/modules etc…). Otherwise, the amount of work in both research
and programming will be too much for a beginner(and quite a bit for an
expert).

Also, even more important, lower your standards down to something that
could be done by one hardworking person over a short period of time.
That way, you can definitely get something done and not waste all your
time trying to accomplish a task that is way beyond your level.

Great place to start: RPG Maker XP. This neat little program(programmed
in Ruby) uses it’s own variation of Ruby called RGSS which is just Ruby
with a few more classes, modules and standard libraries to make your
work easier. You might find more payoff if you try that first.

Good luck from the Ruby Panda!

Warren B. wrote:

It looks like Joe got what he wanted…

From his profile at AskANinja.com (http://askaninja.com/user/56660):

Real Name: Joe W.
Location: Clermont, USA
Profile: I look forward to making your life suck, SOON!
IM: aim: ikillsyous

From his “homepage”
(http://orcygames.proboards54.com/index.cgi?board=gamex&action=display&t
hread=1183692507):

Ninja

What can I do to make your life suck today?

It’s so much fun watching people feed trolls!

Hate to break it to you, but thats not me. I do like his slogan though.
Just a great coincedince. He is probably related to me if he is
American. Wiltrout is a german name, and the Wiltrouts moved from
Germany to Boston a long time ago.

Well, it looks like you haven’t looked at this in a while. Either way,
dude, an MMORPG of even the most basic type(with graphics) like pong
online, would take way more work than you can even comprehend,
especially if you have no programming experience.

I suggest, getting together with some buddies–maybe pool some money for
a beginner’s guide to Ruby–and try to figure out as much of it as you
can. Matter of fact, best to just divide up the workload(one person
works on file reading/writing/parsing and another on manipulating
classes/modules etc…). Otherwise, the amount of work in both research
and programming will be too much for a beginner(and quite a bit for an
expert).

Also, even more important, lower your standards down to something that
could be done by one hardworking person over a short period of time.
That way, you can definitely get something done and not waste all your
time trying to accomplish a task that is way beyond your level.

Great place to start: RPG Maker XP. This neat little program(programmed
in Ruby) uses it’s own variation of Ruby called RGSS which is just Ruby
with a few more classes, modules and standard libraries to make your
work easier. You might find more payoff if you try that first.

Tried RPGMAKERXP. Didnt work. Said some BS like couldnt get serial
number or something. Cant renember. And I don’t plan on making an MMORPG
my first project. Sucky, one player game. Then I might make sometihng
like Final Fantasy 1 and 2.

Good luck from the Ruby Panda!

www.howmanyofme.com

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

Joe W. wrote:

www.howmanyofme.com

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

877 Wiltrouts.

In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

It’s okay, you’re identifiable enough.

-s

unknown wrote:

In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

It’s okay, you’re identifiable enough.

-s

? There’s a 1/6 chance that it’s me. Which it isn’t. The odds are
against you. For all you know, that could be some 12 year old.

Joe W. wrote:

unknown wrote:

In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

It’s okay, you’re identifiable enough.

-s

? There’s a 1/6 chance that it’s me. Which it isn’t. The odds are
against you. For all you know, that could be some 12 year old.

And I just renembered, screw you guys. I’m going home. IN other words, I
am never visiting this gay mailing list again.

In message [email protected], Joe
Wiltrout writes:

? There’s a 1/6 chance that it’s me. Which it isn’t. The odds are
against you. For all you know, that could be some 12 year old.

There’s more than your name to identify you:

And I just renembered, screw you guys. I’m going home. IN other words, I
am never visiting this gay mailing list again.

How many of those Wiltrouts do you think habitually use “gay” as a
derogatory
term? Not all of 'em. How many of them are rich, spoiled, teenagers?
How
many think they’re going to revolutionize the world by copying
Blizzard’s
combat engine?

Believe me, it would not be hard to recognize you just from a writing
sample.

-s

On 7/17/07, Joe W. [email protected] wrote:

? There’s a 1/6 chance that it’s me. Which it isn’t. The odds are
against you. For all you know, that could be some 12 year old.

And I just renembered, screw you guys. I’m going home. IN other words, I
am never visiting this gay mailing list again.

Good bye.

Aur

From his “homepage”

(proboards54.com
&thread=1183692507):
Just a great coincedince. He is probably related to
me if he is American. Wiltrout is a german name, and
the Wiltrouts moved from Germany to Boston a long
time ago.

Type in Joseph Wiltrout. There are 6 of us in America.

877 Wiltrouts.

There’s a 1/6 chance that it’s me. Which it isn’t.
The odds are against you. For all you know, that
could be some 12 year old.

Why are you protesting so much?

Perhaps the keywords on your AskANinja.com profile will help people

judge for themselves:


Keywords: Forum, Awesome, Game, X, MMORPG, 3-D, Idea, New

Peter S. wrote:

Strictly speaking, our ability to prove the claim that Rome wasn’t built in
a day is contingent on certain assumptions about the consistency of physical
laws, etcetera, etcetera.

Sadly, in this fallen world, we must make a number of assumptions. That is,
assuming that there’s a world. And assuming that we want to reach conclusions.
No one has ever proven to my satisfaction that we ought to reach conclusions.

Thank you, Peter, on more than one level.

That reminds me of the old pop quiz question, “Take a position
for or against Truth. Defend your answer.”

Hal

Peter S. wrote:

It’s a very bad analogy for the reality. You’re telling people who regularly
take out elephants with combat knives how to hunt.

I think the best analogy would be that, since you’re finding crawling
unacceptably slow, you’ve decided to go straight to the skateboard. Good
luck with that.

And that is a good analogy. But let’s all give him a break – he’s
obviously years away from finishing high school.

Joe, you have my sympathy, but between Hello-world and “make a weapon
move in a game” there is still a hellishly long learning gap.

You simply can’t run a marathon until you have learned to walk.

Hal