On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:22:35PM +0900, Todd B. wrote:
those guys sitting around with nary a problem.
That’s because it was the high-water mark for MS Windows servers. Any
advances since then that are worth anything have primarily been in
support for hardware that has been developed since Win2k support started
going the way of the dodo.
I’m a minimilast, so I run with BSD and vim. BSD is a bit weird in
the OSS world. They put a sturdier cap on the open source zeal
present in most linux distros.
I think it was the writer Neal Stephenson that attempted to compare
OS’s to vehicles. Well, if his Linux is a tank, the former BeOS a
batmobile, Windows a Saturn, then I guess BSD would be like a
locomotive – sturdy, but you have to follow the track.
I think you’re overstating the case significantly. FreeBSD, for
instance, is not nearly as fast and loose as your average Linux
distribution, but it’s certainly flexible – considerably more so than
any proprietary OS I’ve ever seen, including several proprietary Unix
brands.
. . . and yes, it was Stephenson who made the car dealership analogy, in
his excellent (book-length) essay “In the Beginning was the Command
Line”. His use of the word “yurt” was one of the high points of my week
the first time I read that essay, and the hypothetical conversation with
a passer-by on his way to the Microsoft station wagon dealership was
another of those high points.
Le 24 juillet 2007 à 09:18, Chad P. a écrit :
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 12:23:20PM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
- I’ve heard good things about BSD, but it’s really hard to find
sysadmins for it. It may be more stable than any Linux kernel, but if
you can’t find someone to maintain it, it’s not going to be useful.
You could probably find a couple on this list,
Yes.
For my part, I believe this is way off topic here and prone to
degenerate very rapidly into a flamewar of huge proportions, so I won’t
comment any further, and I’d advise everyone to do the same…
Fred
familiar with a handful of them. I imagine Ruby, though, to be
something akin to a folding bicycle with on board solar power.
I don’t think ruby’s specialty is in it’s power. I think ruby is
special and remarkable for the feeling it gives the user. Thus, I’d
choose a mustang. What a feeling to drive in it!
Aur
On 7/24/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [email protected] wrote:
I like games like this, so let’s do it with languages. Forth is what? A
Dodge Colt? Scheme is a motorcycle? No … the other way around. Forth
is a motorcycle and Scheme is a Dodge Colt (or Volkswagen Beetle). And
Ruby is ??
That’s a tough one. Maybe a Transformer
(The Transformers: The Movie (1986) - IMDb)? It’s more than meets the eye
I can’t play that game with languages, though, because I’m only
familiar with a handful of them. I imagine Ruby, though, to be
something akin to a folding bicycle with on board solar power.
Todd
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:13:26PM +0900, SonOfLilit wrote:
familiar with a handful of them. I imagine Ruby, though, to be
something akin to a folding bicycle with on board solar power.
I don’t think ruby’s specialty is in it’s power. I think ruby is
special and remarkable for the feeling it gives the user. Thus, I’d
choose a mustang. What a feeling to drive in it!
Out of control? I’d choose something with better ability to keep its
wheels glued to the pavement in a turn than a Mustang, I think.
On 7/24/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [email protected] wrote:
I used to be a real minimalist. I did some of my best hacking in Forth
on an HP-100 Pocket PC. Darn thing ran Perl 4 too at an acceptable
speed, doubled as a VT100 with a usable keyboard and an almost visible
80x24 screen. I’ll bet it will run Ruby, although I’m not sure what kind
of script you could cram into 640K.
If you mean an HP 100lx, then no it won’t run Ruby. Ruby for DOS
won’t work on an 8086, if it is even still available at all that is.
Try a Zaurus. I’m getting Ruby up and running on mine. =)
On Jul 24, 2:44 am, “hyunsoo” [email protected] wrote:
I like games like this, so let’s do it with languages. Forth is what? A
Dodge Colt? Scheme is a motorcycle? No … the other way around. Forth
is a motorcycle and Scheme is a Dodge Colt (or Volkswagen Beetle). And
Ruby is ??
I actually think of Ruby as slightly like the Magic School Bus. Maybe
I’ve been reading “_why’s (poignant) guide” too much lately.
On 7/22/07, Chad P. [email protected] wrote:
I prefer to avoid hiding the power of Vim behind a point-and-click
facade. My opinion is my own, of course.
Since I have a severe case of “vi dyslexia”, that interface is what
allows me to use the editor at all :). I suspect the Cream
configuration was made with people like me in mind.
It does allows you to enter command mode a will, however, so all the
power is still there for those who knows how to access it.