Shouldn't I18n default to English?

mrpete · February 3, 2010, 12:18pm

I’ve just started using I18n on a test application and everything is
great except one thing:

For the fun of it I set my Firefox user agent Accept-Language to
Italian, and my page renders this: “it, hello_world.” Shouldn’t it say
“hello, world” (the English phrase)?

Does I18n force you to translate every string into language in order to
use it???

I’d much rather configure it to “use English if the desired language
isn’t available.” How do you do that?

mrpete · February 3, 2010, 12:25pm

I18n.t :hello_world, :default => ‘Hello, world’

2010/2/3 Peter A. [email protected]

I’d much rather configure it to "use English if the desired language
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mrpete · February 3, 2010, 12:55pm

Yup, you could use default strings.

Or - if it’s a feature that you want in your application you can use
locale fallbacks:

github.com

ruby-i18n/i18n/blob/master/lib/i18n/backend/fallbacks.rb#L11


      
          # frozen_string_literal: true
          
          
# I18n locale fallbacks are useful when you want your application to use
          # translations from other locales when translations for the current locale are
          # missing. E.g. you might want to use :en translations when translations in
          # your applications main locale :de are missing.
          #
          # To enable locale fallbacks you can simply include the Fallbacks module to
          # the Simple backend - or whatever other backend you are using:
          #
          #   I18n::Backend::Simple.include(I18n::Backend::Fallbacks)
          module I18n
            @@fallbacks = nil
          
          
  class << self
              # Returns the current fallbacks implementation. Defaults to +I18n::Locale::Fallbacks+.
              def fallbacks
                @@fallbacks ||= I18n::Locale::Fallbacks.new
                Thread.current[:i18n_fallbacks] || @@fallbacks
              end

mrpete · February 3, 2010, 1:54pm

Sven, can you put an implementation example?

Example:

I18n::Backend::Simple.send(:include, I18n::Backend::Fallbacks) This
go in Config/enviroment?

Then…what?

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mrpete · February 3, 2010, 2:03pm

Then you have to declare the fallbacks. For example

I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]
etc

If the es translations isn’t available will pick the en one, if not the
fr
one ,etc

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mrpete · February 3, 2010, 2:10pm

Thanks Albert

This in config/enviroment.rb too?

I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]

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Or - if it’s a feature that you want in your application you can use

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mrpete · February 3, 2010, 2:31pm

Thanks Sven. For me is clear now. I’ll try it.

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config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb

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mrpete · February 6, 2010, 7:07pm

Sorry but i’m tryng this but don’t work for me:
I still have no files in English translation, so I want default for
english
was Spanish

#config/initializers/i18n.rb
I18n.load_path += Dir[File.join(RAILS_ROOT, ‘config’, ‘locales’, ‘**’,
‘*.{rb,yml}’)]
I18n.default_locale = :es
fallbacks = I18n.fallbacks
fallbacks.map(:en => :“es”)

rails 2.3.5 and ruby 1.8.7

When i run the server:
config/initializers/i18n.rb:3: undefined method `fallbacks’ for
I18n:Module

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config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb

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mrpete · February 6, 2010, 8:21pm

I managed to fix it. I’ve seen the solution here [1]

The code looks like this

#config/initializers/i18n.rb
require “i18n/backend/fallbacks”
I18n.load_path += Dir[File.join(RAILS_ROOT, ‘config’, ‘locales’, ‘**’,
‘*.{rb,yml}’)]
I18n.default_locale = :es

I18n::Backend::Simple.send(:include, I18n::Backend::Fallbacks)

What I needed was to install the gem of sven i18n. But why?
I think rails 2.3.5 that came with native support for internationalizing
the
App
sudo gem install i18n
Successfully installed i18n-0.3.3

[1] http://wiki.github.com/svenfuchs/i18n/fallbacks

This in config/enviroment.rb too?
i18n/lib/i18n/locale/fallbacks.rb at master · ruby-i18n/i18n · GitHub

etc

For the fun of it I set my Firefox user agent Accept-Language to

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mrpete · February 3, 2010, 2:20pm

This in config/enviroment.rb too?

I18n.fallbacks[:es] = [:en, :fr, :de]
I18n.fallbacks[:en[ = [:es, :fr, :de]

That should work.

I’d recommend putting this kind of stuff into an initializer (e.g.
config/initializers/i18n.rb) instead of environment.rb

Also, maybe you want to see

github.com

ruby-i18n/i18n/blob/master/lib/i18n/locale/fallbacks.rb

# Locale Fallbacks
#
# Extends the I18n module to hold a fallbacks instance which is set to an
# instance of I18n::Locale::Fallbacks by default but can be swapped with a
# different implementation.
#
# Locale fallbacks will compute a number of fallback locales for a given locale.
# For example:
#
# <pre><code>
# I18n.fallbacks[:"es-MX"] # => [:"es-MX", :es, :en] </code></pre>
#
# Locale fallbacks always fall back to
#
#   * all parent locales of a given locale (e.g. :es for :"es-MX") first,
#   * the current default locales and all of their parents second
#
# The default locales are set to [] by default but can be set to something else.
#
# One can additionally add any number of additional fallback locales manually.

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Shouldn't I18n default to English?

If the es translations isn’t available will pick the en one, if not the fr one ,etc

great except one thing:

great except one thing:

great except one thing:

The code looks like this

I18n::Backend::Simple.send(:include, I18n::Backend::Fallbacks)

For the fun of it I set my Firefox user agent Accept-Language to

If the es translations isn’t available will pick the en one, if not the
fr
one ,etc